1 00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:04,960 [interposing voices] 2 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:21,360 [police radio] 3 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,760 I didn't say thanks. 4 00:00:38,860 --> 00:00:40,330 Well, it's gonna do. 5 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,360 What is this thing about you being on sick leave? 6 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:48,560 Oh, don't worry. 7 00:00:48,660 --> 00:00:50,400 Don't worry Mark, it's not contagious. 8 00:01:19,260 --> 00:01:20,540 POLICE (ON RADIO): Control, over. 9 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:26,130 [police radio conversation] 10 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,460 DAVE CREEGAN: Who was she? 11 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,100 SUSAN TAYLOR: Name's Jackie Salvo. 12 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,100 Her credit card's inside her purse. 13 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 They're looking for a next of kin. 14 00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:54,060 There was a white bin bag next to her body 15 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,700 containing her heart and some of her clothing. 16 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,060 DAVE CREEGAN: Who found her? 17 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,360 SUSAN TAYLOR: One of the drivers, just after 8:00. 18 00:02:02,460 --> 00:02:04,436 Whoever did this left her body under the back wheels 19 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:05,800 of the cab. 20 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:07,960 Driver backed straight over it. 21 00:02:08,060 --> 00:02:09,776 No connection between her and the the driver? 22 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,160 He couldn't even identify the body. 23 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,400 We'll be expected to rearrest Matchin. 24 00:02:17,500 --> 00:02:19,560 Matchin's dead. 25 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:22,530 He walked into the North Sea. 26 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:24,830 And you walked in after him. 27 00:02:24,930 --> 00:02:26,760 We need to find out why she was left here 28 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:27,940 and who her next of kin is. 29 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,136 If Matchin couldn't have done this, 30 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,160 that makes Fitten the chief suspect. 31 00:02:31,260 --> 00:02:32,460 Fitten didn't do this. 32 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,000 You know that for a fact? 33 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:36,160 Fitten isn't the killer. 34 00:02:36,260 --> 00:02:37,500 We're wasting our time. 35 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,060 Another woman has just been murdered. 36 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,876 Instead of standing here arguing can we agree what we're doing 37 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:42,030 for once and get on with it? 38 00:02:42,130 --> 00:02:44,260 Yeah, I want Fitten rearrested. 39 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Can you go and do that now? 40 00:02:49,260 --> 00:02:51,460 MIKE LAWLER: Has somebody taken your statement Mr. Khan? 41 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:53,806 TARIQ KHAN: Somebody's taken my statement five times over. 42 00:02:53,830 --> 00:02:55,960 I've got no idea who she is. 43 00:02:56,060 --> 00:02:58,260 I'm sorry to say, I'd like to get back to work. 44 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,200 I'm tired. 45 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:00,800 I'm going home. 46 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:04,430 You know, this guy is not even next of kin. 47 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:05,930 What do I do, Creegan? 48 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:07,976 What am I after I've been brought in to offer counseling? 49 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,160 He ran over the body. 50 00:03:09,260 --> 00:03:10,736 It isn't his wife, he doesn't give a toss. 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,360 All he wants to do is go to see, brother. 52 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:13,600 Sorry we wasted your time. 53 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:20,100 Anthony Matchin's dead, drowned himself. 54 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,400 Found his body 20 minutes ago. 55 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:29,060 Well, 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,160 That's it then. 57 00:03:38,660 --> 00:03:39,830 It got him in the end. 58 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:41,860 Look, it's possible the killer mistook Tariq 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,900 Khan for Jackie's boyfriend. 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,806 Whoever the boyfriend is, we're trying to find him. 61 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:48,500 Sorry, I don't want to be here. 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Well, maybe in the morning then. 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,960 I can't think I won't feel the same in the morning. 64 00:03:56,060 --> 00:04:00,060 Look, I really don't think I can help you anymore. 65 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,130 I got a wife sitting at home now doing ironing 66 00:04:02,230 --> 00:04:03,806 because she's too scared to go back to bed. 67 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:05,200 I can't sleep. 68 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:07,136 Look, like a road traffic accident or sudden death 69 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,600 in the family, that's one thing. 70 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:10,136 But I'm dealing with something that I am 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,900 not trained for here and it's-- 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,060 frankly, it's-- it's my marriage or this. 73 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:21,960 - That's what I said. - He's ready. 74 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:23,800 They've put him into the interview room. 75 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:28,630 Not you. 76 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:33,830 WAYNE FITTEN: One side of the moon 77 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:37,300 never receives any sunlight. 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,400 The dark side. 79 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:44,730 The killings are in tune to the phases of the moon. 80 00:04:44,830 --> 00:04:45,876 So you've bought the observer's 81 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:46,976 book of astronomy, have you? 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,100 Little pocket book about this big? 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Came out about the same time as the "I 84 00:04:52,460 --> 00:04:55,800 Spy" book of serial killers. 85 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:57,960 All the other victims were found by their husbands. 86 00:04:58,060 --> 00:04:59,760 Jackie Salvo will be the same. 87 00:04:59,860 --> 00:05:01,330 We've checked. 88 00:05:01,430 --> 00:05:03,100 She wasn't married. 89 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,806 Well, it doesn't have to be a piece of paper. 90 00:05:04,830 --> 00:05:07,760 This isn't 1890. 91 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:09,600 Talk to everybody who worked at North Gate, 92 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,600 find out who knew Jackie Salvo. 93 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:15,460 DI Taylor has already asked me. 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,930 That place has got 65 men. 95 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:18,960 48 of those are driving on the continent. 96 00:05:19,060 --> 00:05:20,476 We've spoken with everyone who worked 97 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:21,700 with Jackie at the job center. 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,640 According to them, she kept herself to herself. 99 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:24,700 Speak to them again. 100 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:31,330 He's tied into a lunar cycle. 101 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:32,936 There's no correlation between the times 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,300 or any of the killings and the phases of the moon. 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,600 Found it in my office. 104 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:41,700 Only one out of the three nights was clear. 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,976 Your home is at risk if you don't 106 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,320 keep up the payments on a mortgage 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,330 or a loan secured on it. 108 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:47,260 What? 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,430 You're not listening. 110 00:05:49,530 --> 00:05:51,970 If you're not going to listen, what's the point of being here? 111 00:05:52,030 --> 00:05:53,700 And the next time I conduct an interview, 112 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,106 can you at least stay until the end? 113 00:05:55,130 --> 00:05:56,600 MARK RIVERS: We've got a problem. 114 00:05:56,700 --> 00:05:58,460 This is serious. 115 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,700 They've given my room away. 116 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:08,160 - Don't suppose? - No. 117 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:09,260 OK. 118 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:13,460 Heads or tails. 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,360 Don't mind. 120 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:17,430 Look the same. 121 00:06:17,530 --> 00:06:18,530 Do you snore? 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Only when I sleep. 123 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,360 You? 124 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:23,460 Kerry used to say-- 125 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:24,830 Don't you'll have me in tears. 126 00:06:27,530 --> 00:06:30,000 All right, get a coat hanger, pretend 127 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:31,340 I'm sleeping with someone else. 128 00:06:48,430 --> 00:06:49,560 That mine? 129 00:06:49,660 --> 00:06:51,360 Yeah, didn't bring enough warm clothes. 130 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:52,460 Nice look. 131 00:07:01,660 --> 00:07:03,000 Local post mark. 132 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,930 So the killer was in Ellandon yesterday afternoon? 133 00:07:06,030 --> 00:07:08,200 And Jackie Salvo was murdered last night. 134 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:12,460 That means he posted it before he killed her. 135 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,560 Who's Carl Laing? 136 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:17,560 Carl Laing's Jackie Salvo's next of kin. 137 00:07:17,660 --> 00:07:19,700 [truck beeps horn] 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:27,830 Carl Laing? 139 00:07:27,930 --> 00:07:31,400 What have I done now? 140 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:33,860 DAVE CREEGAN: What made you change your mind? 141 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Had it changed for me. 142 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:38,600 Liz left for her sister's this morning. 143 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:40,560 She didn't want to stay. 144 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:42,300 I mean, she didn't want me to go with her. 145 00:07:47,030 --> 00:07:48,500 Well, human contact with something 146 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,930 evil, you know, people closest to you 147 00:07:52,030 --> 00:07:54,000 are going to find that difficult. 148 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:56,660 Yeah. 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Well, here we all are. 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,330 CARL LAING: I've just seen her. 151 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:07,260 She was a mess. 152 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,660 I wanted to kiss her. 153 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,830 What did you do? 154 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:13,260 I kissed her. 155 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:19,700 There's no need to be embarrassed about that. 156 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,860 I'm not embarrassed. 157 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,480 I wanted to hold her but the technician 158 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,760 said it wasn't a good idea. 159 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:26,160 But I held her anyway. 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,830 However hard I tried, I still couldn't 161 00:08:30,930 --> 00:08:32,460 seem to think of her as dead. 162 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:34,130 And I couldn't let her go. 163 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:36,200 Well, I hope nobody said that you should. 164 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,660 We've been together nearly four years, 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,760 we're talking about getting married. 166 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:45,430 I don't know what I'm going to do. 167 00:08:48,460 --> 00:08:51,300 [sobs] 168 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,330 Fitten wants to speak to you. 169 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:04,430 Wants to confess. 170 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:05,360 Yeah? 171 00:09:05,460 --> 00:09:07,260 [yelling in pain] 172 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:10,530 What? 173 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:11,630 Heard you wanted to chat. 174 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Get the sweets? 175 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,400 How did you kill her? 176 00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:42,830 I strangled her. 177 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:43,930 Just like the rest. 178 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Just like that? 179 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:51,130 No. 180 00:09:51,230 --> 00:09:54,000 Not just like that. 181 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:58,100 There's a lot we have to go through first. 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,260 There's a power point in the body. 183 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,960 I used to be an electrician. 184 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:08,100 So she got 240 volts every time she moved. 185 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,730 You used to be an electrician. 186 00:10:11,830 --> 00:10:14,730 Don't tell me, you were sacked by a woman. 187 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:21,660 What do you think I am, Wayne? 188 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:22,700 Stupid? 189 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:28,200 Any man who's been humiliated in any way by a women 190 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:31,930 has a standard adolescent fantasy of seeking revenge. 191 00:10:32,030 --> 00:10:34,030 It's got nothing to do with what's happening, 192 00:10:34,130 --> 00:10:36,760 not even worth a bag of sweets. 193 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:40,830 I killed those women. 194 00:10:40,930 --> 00:10:43,330 No, you didn't. 195 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:45,000 You're a thinker, you don't do. 196 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:48,400 You're watching too much television. 197 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,930 Now why don't you get out there and get some fresh air? 198 00:10:52,030 --> 00:10:54,430 Why don't you get out there and meet 199 00:10:54,530 --> 00:10:57,730 somebody like JoAnne or Jackie? 200 00:10:57,830 --> 00:11:01,400 Get a haircut, get a girlfriend, get a life. 201 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:05,330 What is it with you, Creegan? 202 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:08,160 Well, you do know there's been a major alert out for him. 203 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:10,430 Fitten claims he tortured each of the victims. 204 00:11:10,530 --> 00:11:12,760 They weren't tortured. 205 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:15,300 They were mutilated methodically and carefully after they 206 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,330 were killed, not before. 207 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:19,160 Proving what? 208 00:11:19,260 --> 00:11:21,560 The killer wanted to harm the man who found them much more 209 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:22,940 than he wanted to harm the women. 210 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,030 Has anyone got anything against you? 211 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:31,500 You mean against Jackie? 212 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,430 No. 213 00:11:33,530 --> 00:11:34,830 No, I mean you. 214 00:11:34,930 --> 00:11:36,800 I don't understand. 215 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,130 Do you want to take a break? 216 00:11:39,230 --> 00:11:40,930 No. 217 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:43,430 SUSAN TAYLOR: I think somebody tried to harm you, Carl. 218 00:11:43,530 --> 00:11:44,776 I mean, have you argued with anyone, 219 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,000 done anything to upset anybody? 220 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:49,430 Malloy. 221 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:51,060 Who's Malloy? 222 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,060 He's a bastard who calls himself the transport manager. 223 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,930 We're working to fiddle in a few of their lots. 224 00:11:58,030 --> 00:12:00,630 We'd take a full load out, one would come back empty, 225 00:12:00,730 --> 00:12:03,860 we'd load it with cases of booze. 226 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Me and Tariq were runners. 227 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:09,460 We thought Malloy had set us up and I was being followed. 228 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:14,260 That was why Tariq was going to take the load instead of me. 229 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Someone was following us into work. 230 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:18,600 You sure? 231 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:19,976 I thought he was watching the house. 232 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Whoever this guy was, I couldn't shake him off. 233 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,400 Were you close enough to get a look at him? 234 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:25,500 No. 235 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:33,830 SUSAN TAYLOR: Why doesn't he kill the man? 236 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:35,730 By sending you cards with their names on it, 237 00:12:35,830 --> 00:12:37,260 why didn't he just get it over with? 238 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 DAVE CREEGAN: He doesn't want them dead. 239 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:43,630 He wants them to suffer. 240 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:45,200 It's about power. 241 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,430 He's taking something away that belongs to them. 242 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:54,130 It's like sleeping with another man's wife. 243 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:57,530 You sleep with a married woman, that's part of you 244 00:12:57,630 --> 00:12:58,790 trying to get to the husband. 245 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,130 I'm not talking from experience. 246 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:05,560 Never had the time. 247 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:08,560 But if I wanted to harm somebody, 248 00:13:08,660 --> 00:13:12,660 I'd do something to someone they cared for. 249 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,930 The women can't just be a means to an end. 250 00:13:16,030 --> 00:13:17,900 He wouldn't do this if he didn't hate them. 251 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,260 He's beyond that. 252 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,500 He's using them. 253 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,300 Why send you the cards? 254 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,240 He sent them to you, he didn't send them to me. 255 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,130 He wants another man to stop him. 256 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:42,900 I want to talk to the partners of all the victims. 257 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,036 I want to find out if any of the other men have been followed 258 00:13:45,060 --> 00:13:46,960 and start with Peter Carol. 259 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:49,960 Can't, he's at a press conference. 260 00:13:50,060 --> 00:13:51,530 What press conference? 261 00:13:51,630 --> 00:13:53,700 He's appealing for information. 262 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,600 Enwright's idea. 263 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,700 That is exactly what the killer wants. 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,080 A basic component of serial crime 265 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,830 is the need for recognition. 266 00:14:04,930 --> 00:14:07,000 Parading those men on national television 267 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:09,260 is only showing the killer what he needs to see. 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,330 Dave, it's Enwright's idea. 269 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:13,336 That is a massive incitement for him to kill again. 270 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,760 This isn't about the man, it's about the women. 271 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:19,530 The killer doesn't hate women. 272 00:14:19,630 --> 00:14:22,860 WHEELAN: Oh, don't talk shit, Creegan. 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,800 This is Ellandon not Chelsea bloody Harbor. 274 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:27,260 There-- there's nothing complex about people around here. 275 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,630 The way they kill is really very disappointing. 276 00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:31,000 I'm not talking to you. 277 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:32,730 Well, I'm talking to you. 278 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:34,076 I can take you out there right now 279 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:35,576 and I can you how these murders happened. 280 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 First, there's a lot of the very violent men in this town. 281 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:41,130 Second, this violence is directed towards women. 282 00:14:41,230 --> 00:14:45,560 Third, one of these men is the killer. 283 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:48,130 And know I'm treated like shit all week 284 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:50,176 and then come Friday, when it all comes pouring out. 285 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,860 All his fears, his frustrations, he's 286 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,406 got to take it out on somebody and before he 287 00:14:54,430 --> 00:14:58,530 knows what's happened well-- well, someone's been killed. 288 00:14:58,630 --> 00:14:59,630 That's not how it is. 289 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,330 Don't tell me how it is. 290 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:18,600 Look, if you're trying to tell me that the killer wants 291 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:23,000 to harm the men, well you're-- 292 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:25,430 you're more off your head than I thought. 293 00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:27,860 Is this because of how you feel about your wife? 294 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,660 Oh, right and what about what happened to yours? 295 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,600 SUSAN TAYLOR: Leave it. 296 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:32,730 Just leave it. 297 00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:34,500 What's the matter, Creegan? 298 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,030 Hit your own nerve? 299 00:15:36,130 --> 00:15:37,500 Where's the press conference? 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,600 No! 301 00:15:41,330 --> 00:15:42,630 Peter. 302 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:44,006 I really don't think you should do this. 303 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:45,030 This isn't going to help. 304 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 If Enwright see's your face all over tomorrow's 305 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,930 papers, what's going to happen? 306 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:55,000 Look, I know there's a thin line between genius and madness 307 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,800 but do we have to show everyone which side we're on? 308 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:02,660 PETER CAROL (ON TV): If anybody has any information 309 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,030 about the person who did this, you should 310 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:06,700 contact the police immediately. 311 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,460 It's 11:05, this is on the telly 312 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,676 and I'm still eating my lunch. 313 00:16:09,700 --> 00:16:11,400 PETER CAROL (ON TV): --this again. 314 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:13,360 REPORTER (ON TV): Mr. Carol. 315 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:15,300 Mr. Carol. 316 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,760 [indistinct speech on tv] 317 00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:23,500 Well, all these men have been very badly hurt. 318 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,660 But why these men? 319 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,000 Why were they selected? 320 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:29,130 It doesn't work like that. 321 00:16:29,230 --> 00:16:30,960 They're individuals. 322 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:32,930 They must have something in common. 323 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:34,600 People aren't a thing, Creegan. 324 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:35,930 They're a process. 325 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:37,700 They change over time, they get better 326 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,960 despite the circumstances. 327 00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:44,030 Tell me about Carl Laing. 328 00:16:44,130 --> 00:16:46,200 Carl Laing wishes he was dead. 329 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:48,236 He's punishing himself because someone he cared about 330 00:16:48,260 --> 00:16:50,600 died while he was 200 miles away. 331 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:53,260 Pete Carroll is clinically depressed. 332 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,106 John is still angry and guilty after two years. 333 00:16:55,130 --> 00:16:58,060 You tell me what any of them have got in common. 334 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,060 They've all been bereaved. 335 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:00,900 Exactly. 336 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,200 You're back where you started. 337 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,830 What if I get them all together in the same room? 338 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:16,300 You'll be telling them that this was all their fault. 339 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,560 I really shouldn't do that if I were you. 340 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:22,860 I mean, Anthony Matchin blamed himself for Suzanne's death. 341 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840 I don't have to remind you what happened to him. 342 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:26,330 No, no, no. Don't do that. 343 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,176 DAVE CREEGAN: Is there anyone anywhere 344 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,260 in the last three years who might 345 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,130 have a grudge against you? 346 00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:37,460 I don't mean someone who doesn't like you, 347 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,300 I mean someone who really hates you. 348 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:46,630 Frank? 349 00:17:46,730 --> 00:17:48,060 John? 350 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,860 Hate has enough to do with it? 351 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,060 If you can think of anyone at all. 352 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,160 Where's Malloy? 353 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,560 It wasn't Malloy, Carl. 354 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:59,900 Malloy was in Macbeth. 355 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,830 My brother hates me. 356 00:18:01,930 --> 00:18:03,460 I don't think he's done this. 357 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,330 Does your brother know anyone here? 358 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:07,730 I'm serious. 359 00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:11,230 My brother moved to New Zealand in 1983. 360 00:18:11,330 --> 00:18:14,130 He said he couldn't get far enough away. 361 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:17,230 Look, the truth is we've all got enemies. 362 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:20,660 Everyone makes enemies all of the time. 363 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,830 Is there anyone anywhere? 364 00:18:22,930 --> 00:18:24,330 There's a ratio of us. 365 00:18:24,430 --> 00:18:26,136 I don't see what that's got to do with all of this. 366 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,836 DAVE CREEGAN: If you can think of anyone at all-- 367 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:29,200 I haven't worked in over a year. 368 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,306 SUSAN TAYLOR: --who might have a grudge against you. 369 00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:31,060 I can't remember. 370 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,360 Is this what happened to Lisa? 371 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,760 [interposing voices] 372 00:18:36,030 --> 00:18:37,760 For the Ryan estate? 373 00:18:47,530 --> 00:18:49,000 MIKE LAWLER: Come on, now. 374 00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:57,900 Come on, it'll be all right. 375 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,876 CARL LAING: I'll tell you what we've got in common, 376 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:03,000 we're all getting tired of this. 377 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:04,430 Is anyone in charge of him? 378 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:17,630 SUSAN TAYLOR: What is it with you, Creegan. 379 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:20,430 I'm not making excuses for being in charge. 380 00:19:20,530 --> 00:19:22,236 I haven't got a problem with you being in charge. 381 00:19:22,260 --> 00:19:24,380 Yeah, then why have you been such a difficult bastard? 382 00:19:28,130 --> 00:19:31,160 You sent your family into exile. 383 00:19:31,260 --> 00:19:34,260 That wasn't my idea. 384 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:35,800 Why do you have to take it out on me? 385 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:40,830 I'm taking it out on everybody. 386 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,106 Can we talk about something else? 387 00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:43,410 Would you just keep out of this? 388 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:47,100 Come on. 389 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,160 Be honest. 390 00:19:50,530 --> 00:19:53,100 Can't deny it. 391 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,936 What's this, start of a no comment interview? 392 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,560 I'm sick of hearing this. 393 00:19:56,660 --> 00:19:57,830 We're supposed to be a team. 394 00:19:57,930 --> 00:19:59,610 Why can't we just wrap this up and go home? 395 00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:02,000 Why did I think of that? 396 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:03,660 The killer's a misogynist. 397 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Can't we just stick to that? 398 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:06,060 He's not. 399 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:11,930 He hates everybody, including himself. 400 00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:15,460 It's a case of takes one to know one. 401 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,060 I'm going to bed. 402 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,460 Why did you have to say that? 403 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,900 Going to try Hannah again. 404 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,130 Where you going? 405 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:28,430 Some of us have got someone to go back to. 406 00:20:28,530 --> 00:20:31,000 [dials phone] 407 00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:32,960 HANNAH (ON ANSWERING MACHINE): Hi, 408 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:34,530 you've reached Hannah and Mark. 409 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:36,106 I'm afraid we're not here right now but please leave a message. 410 00:20:36,130 --> 00:20:39,030 [answering machine beeps] 411 00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:42,860 Hi, it's me again and it's late. 412 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,860 Think-- I think I really need to talk. 413 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,330 I'm pretty sick of it here. 414 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:53,330 This is just-- 415 00:20:56,660 --> 00:20:58,500 I'll call you-- I'll call you in the morning. 416 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,700 That's what I'll do. 417 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,430 I'm sorry if I've-- if I've woken you up. 418 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:05,000 Sorry. 419 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:05,760 OK. 420 00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:07,600 Goodnight. 421 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:10,360 [hangs up phone] 422 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,030 So you-- you're nowhere near to finding this guy. 423 00:21:24,130 --> 00:21:25,250 I wouldn't hold your breath. 424 00:21:31,930 --> 00:21:35,360 This place is grim. 425 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:36,530 The whole building. 426 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:37,700 [laughing] 427 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,600 I'm not knocking it, but it's grim. 428 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:41,430 Not good for me. 429 00:21:41,530 --> 00:21:45,600 LAING: I've also figured out why you do what you do. 430 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:48,100 People are dying to get out. 431 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,960 [chuckling] So if you're not going to find this guy, 432 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:53,700 what's the point in staying? 433 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,300 I'm responsible. 434 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,430 This is serious business and I'm not in charge, 435 00:21:59,530 --> 00:22:02,700 but I'm responsible. 436 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,006 We've been up here all this time. 437 00:22:04,030 --> 00:22:05,400 We're no further on. 438 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,260 Anthony Matchin's dead. 439 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,260 Joanne Carroll's dead. 440 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,330 Jackie Saville was only 24 years old. 441 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:11,260 She's dead. 442 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:13,560 They're all dead. 443 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:15,760 It's no way to die, is it, you know? 444 00:22:15,860 --> 00:22:17,330 24 years old. 445 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:19,276 Your heart ripped out and stuffed in a dust bin bag 446 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,336 and left at the back of a lorry for someone to find. 447 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:23,730 I dare say that isn't what her parents had in mind. 448 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:25,460 I daresay her boyfriend had other plans. 449 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:31,100 MICHAEL: Sure you don't want some of this? 450 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,660 Can I use your toilet? 451 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,660 Yeah. 452 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,130 Top of the stairs on the right. 453 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,860 It's good coffee. Thank you. 454 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,076 I should've told them all this. 455 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,630 I shouldn't be bothering you. 456 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:51,260 Why didn't you tell them? 457 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,360 They were too busy taking chunks out of each other. 458 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,460 I'm getting married in nine weeks time. 459 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,930 Great. 460 00:23:02,030 --> 00:23:02,900 That's all I need to know. 461 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,800 This is all dead. 462 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:05,200 It doesn't fit in. 463 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,160 Hannah thinks I'm on a drug case with Customs and Excise. 464 00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:17,260 How-- how do you feel about lying? 465 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,860 How do I feel? 466 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,300 I've got an Italian suit, an American gun, 467 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,560 Japanese mobile phone, direct line to the Home Secretary, 468 00:23:28,660 --> 00:23:33,030 and a mandate to do pretty much what the hell I like, actually. 469 00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:36,560 But the one thing I can't do is talk to the person I'm marrying 470 00:23:36,660 --> 00:23:39,700 and tell her the truth. 471 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Taylor can do this. 472 00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:43,300 Creegan can do this in his sleep. 473 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,130 You know they got rid of his family-- 474 00:23:45,230 --> 00:23:47,200 the OSC. 475 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:50,100 And new names, and new addresses-- 476 00:23:53,030 --> 00:23:56,300 he can't even find them. 477 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,400 I don't want that. 478 00:24:00,030 --> 00:24:01,776 If you're going to turn over your life to something, 479 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,460 it should be something that makes you proud. 480 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,030 That's why I'm getting out. 481 00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:11,830 I'm doing things I'm not proud of anymore. 482 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:13,300 If you don't stand for something, 483 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,300 you'll fall for anything, won't you? 484 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,860 [breathing heavily] 485 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,860 [music playing] 486 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,930 Where did you say your toilet was? 487 00:24:25,030 --> 00:24:26,360 MICHAEL: Upstairs on the right. 488 00:24:26,460 --> 00:24:27,460 Thank you. 489 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,260 [toilet flushing] 490 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,160 [water splashing] 491 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,160 [gasping] 492 00:25:18,930 --> 00:25:20,400 [water splashing] 493 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,660 [knife scraping] 494 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,230 I'm sorry. 495 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:34,060 I'm sorry. 496 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,160 [breathing heavily] It's OK. 497 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:37,900 It's OK. 498 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,130 But you cut me. 499 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,830 It's OK. 500 00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:49,930 [gasping] 501 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:51,400 I'm sorry. 502 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:53,800 Sorry. It's OK. 503 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:56,800 It's OK. 504 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,360 [carl choking] 505 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,860 [sighing] 506 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,230 [quietly groaning] 507 00:26:44,330 --> 00:26:45,800 [sighing] 508 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:48,200 [traffic honking] 509 00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:52,000 [music playing] 510 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:58,960 [police radio chatter] 511 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,100 [sighing loudly] 512 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,100 LAING (ON ANSWERING MACHINE): Ah, it's late. 513 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,360 [answering machine beeping] 514 00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:39,660 I'll call you-- I call you in the morning. 515 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,130 [answering machine beeping] 516 00:28:41,230 --> 00:28:41,860 Hiya, Hannah. 517 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,460 It's me again. 518 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,830 And it's late. 519 00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:49,660 I think-- I think I really need to talk. 520 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,130 I'm pretty sick of it here and this-- uh-- 521 00:28:53,230 --> 00:28:56,460 just-- I-- uh, I'll call you-- 522 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,460 I'll call you in the morning. 523 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,800 That's what I'll do. 524 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,300 I'm sorry if I've woken you up. 525 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,030 Sorry. 526 00:29:03,130 --> 00:29:04,560 Hannah. [hannah crying] 527 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:05,260 LAING (ON ANSWERING MACHINE): OK. 528 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,130 Good night. 529 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:06,930 Good night. 530 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:08,460 [hannah crying] 531 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400 WHEELAN: We're looking for witnesses. 532 00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:20,800 Talking to all the hotel staff up there. 533 00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:23,460 I've got a kid who thinks he saw the car. 534 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,830 Thinks it arrived before 4:00. 535 00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:27,800 Him and his girlfriend left shortly afterwards. 536 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,400 Did he have a look at the driver? 537 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:30,960 WHEELAN: He says he didn't. 538 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:35,130 We're still trying to contact the girlfriend. 539 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:36,636 You've no idea where he might have gone 540 00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:38,460 after he left you last night? 541 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,030 I don't know. 542 00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:41,130 We'd been drinking. 543 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,630 Look, uh-- we can speak about this later, then. 544 00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:47,600 No. 545 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:48,820 I want to sort this out now. 546 00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:53,130 Sorry. 547 00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:54,230 Sorry. 548 00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:04,160 WHEELAN: Well, we'll get this bastard one way or the other. 549 00:30:04,260 --> 00:30:08,760 If I have to rip this town apart, I will. 550 00:30:08,860 --> 00:30:10,700 Eh, look. 551 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,076 Don't take this personally, Creegan, 552 00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:17,560 but you look like shite. 553 00:30:17,660 --> 00:30:22,200 Do you want a cup of tea? CREEGAN: So what is it? 554 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,800 Tea and sympathy? 555 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,100 You look like you need it. 556 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,330 Tea? 557 00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:29,430 Sympathy. 558 00:30:32,260 --> 00:30:33,900 Do you want me to take your coat? 559 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,860 [sighing] 560 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,230 I wanted to tell you how sorry I am. 561 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,100 Look. 562 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,330 I'm not trying to sell you anything. 563 00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:59,500 Don't want to put you under any pressure, but-- 564 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,960 You want to know if I'm in need of counseling? 565 00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:04,060 For what it's worth. 566 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,530 Where did you meet him? 567 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:13,130 In Hell Park. 568 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:14,606 He'd come back from playing football 569 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:16,100 and I couldn't start the car. 570 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,406 He-- he had some of that stuff that you spray on the engine, 571 00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:20,600 and next thing I know, we've been out for a drink. 572 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:25,530 I'll be all right in a minute. 573 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,860 He-- he said you were in Liverpool. 574 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,660 He-- he told me you were doing some drugs 575 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,960 thing with Customs and Excise. 576 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,230 I've been told he was killed up in Ellindon. 577 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:44,530 I'm not stupid. 578 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:46,130 I read the papers. 579 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:48,060 I know that Mark lied to protect me. 580 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,960 How was he killed? 581 00:32:02,060 --> 00:32:03,420 PATHOLOGIST: These are his clothes. 582 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,060 I've finished the autopsy. 583 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,280 It's all right to be viewed. 584 00:32:12,660 --> 00:32:15,460 Massive internal hemorrhaging from the stab wounds. 585 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,830 Strangulation after that. 586 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:19,230 There's evidence of a struggle. 587 00:32:19,330 --> 00:32:20,560 He fought back. 588 00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:23,530 I think he dug his fingers into the killer's neck. 589 00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:30,580 Have you seen everything you need? 590 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,260 You'll have a couple of minutes. 591 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,830 [music playing] 592 00:32:47,330 --> 00:32:48,200 [door slamming] 593 00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:49,800 [gasping] 594 00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:53,600 [sighing] 595 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,500 [hannah crying] 596 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,320 Didn't take his gun with him. 597 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Wherever he went, he felt safe. 598 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,900 You know we'll find the killer. 599 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,430 There'll be forensic evidence. 600 00:33:57,530 --> 00:34:00,030 Rivers would have scarred him when he fought back. 601 00:34:00,130 --> 00:34:01,460 CREEGAN: Can't think about that. 602 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,360 I don't know what to think. 603 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:07,700 I haven't had a straight thought my head since I saw Mark. 604 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,600 Hannah didn't even know he was up here. 605 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,900 But that's not all he was hiding. 606 00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:18,000 I found this in his kitchen. 607 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:24,160 He got a copy of the personnel file. 608 00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:27,000 Enright gave it to him day before you came up. 609 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,260 I don't wanna exacerbate your natural paranoia. 610 00:34:31,830 --> 00:34:33,600 Enright had asked him to compile a report 611 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:34,960 on your ability to do the job. 612 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,030 Enright told him to do it? 613 00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:47,900 What else could he do? 614 00:34:51,730 --> 00:34:53,200 [music playing] 615 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,060 CREEGAN (VOICEOVER): You put one foot wrong, Dave. 616 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,300 Don't come back at all. 617 00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:09,900 Forget this. 618 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,160 You can't read that far. 619 00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:12,606 The local police are looking for the killer. 620 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:13,630 Let them go. 621 00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:18,336 We're going to get they guy that did this. 622 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,636 He's not going to get away with it. 623 00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:21,100 We'll make him pay. 624 00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:26,400 MAN: No! 625 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:27,800 It wasn't me. 626 00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,300 Why me? 627 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,060 Why me? 628 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,460 I know you didn't do it. 629 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,400 I know you didn't do it. 630 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,560 I know you didn't do it. 631 00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:34,500 Sorry. 632 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,700 I'm really sorry. 633 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,460 I'm so sorry. 634 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,460 [crying] 635 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,030 I'm so sorry. 636 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,860 [wiping feet] 637 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,260 [thunder] 638 00:36:27,260 --> 00:36:28,260 Creegan? 639 00:36:31,860 --> 00:36:34,000 I didn't think anything could touch me anymore. 640 00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:38,530 He was a friend. 641 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:46,560 [sniffing] 642 00:36:53,530 --> 00:36:54,530 I can still see it. 643 00:36:57,830 --> 00:36:59,330 What was left in the boot of the car. 644 00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:05,420 I don't ever want to look at anything like that again. 645 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,360 Nothing compares to the shock of seeing that. 646 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:15,600 It's changed me for good. 647 00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,260 I know that you did it, Michael. 648 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,260 Well, you sent me the cards. 649 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,030 You wanted me to know that you did it. 650 00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:32,600 You sent me the cards and you left 651 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:33,780 him where I would find him. 652 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,936 I need you to tell me that you did it, Michael. 653 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,360 Otherwise we can't move on. 654 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:44,130 It's all right. 655 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:45,100 You can say it. 656 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,230 [michael laughing breathily] 657 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,830 [michael laughing] 658 00:37:54,930 --> 00:37:55,930 Take it off. 659 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:00,930 I'm asking you to take it off. 660 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:10,900 Show me. 661 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,460 Do you know why? 662 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,430 You lonely? 663 00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:24,030 You afraid of rejection? 664 00:38:24,130 --> 00:38:25,570 Happens to the best of us, especially 665 00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:28,660 when you don't belong. 666 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,630 You're like me. 667 00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:32,330 You grew up around here but you never 668 00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:34,330 really felt you fitted in. 669 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:38,060 You want to be the same, but you're different. 670 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,700 Peter, Frank, Tony, Carl-- they'd all 671 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,830 got something we've not. 672 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,260 You became a therapist. 673 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,760 I moved down to London. 674 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:50,900 They became fitters and welders. 675 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,406 It wasn't just because you're lonely. 676 00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:56,560 You wanted the company of a particular kind of man. 677 00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:57,900 They were strong. 678 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,130 They knew who they were. 679 00:38:59,230 --> 00:39:01,960 They knew where-- well, they thought they 680 00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:04,930 knew where they were going. 681 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:06,236 Killing their wives and girlfriends 682 00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:07,830 brought those men directly to you. 683 00:39:07,930 --> 00:39:09,900 You didn't have to lift a finger. 684 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,100 The police pushed them straight through your door. 685 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:17,530 Did you get a hard on talking to Carl Laing? 686 00:39:17,630 --> 00:39:19,930 [laughing] I am-- 687 00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:21,260 I'm not a homosexual. 688 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,360 I never said you were. 689 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:25,560 Just asking. 690 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:29,600 Did talking to Carl Laing give you an erection? 691 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:33,260 [sniffing] I got excited. 692 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,500 Yeah. 693 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,860 But I never wanted to sleep with him or anything. 694 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,330 Is it the grief that makes you excited? 695 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:45,360 You know, you reduce this man to tears. 696 00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:47,630 The one thing he needs more than anything in the world 697 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:52,400 has just been taken away from him, and all he's got left 698 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:53,300 now is you. 699 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,700 Is that how it works? 700 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,600 Well, you know it is. 701 00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,830 And is that why I'm here? 702 00:40:00,930 --> 00:40:02,030 Am I your next victim? 703 00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:02,760 No. 704 00:40:02,860 --> 00:40:04,130 It isn't like that. 705 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:06,200 I panicked. 706 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:07,530 I thought Mark worked it out. 707 00:40:07,630 --> 00:40:08,930 I panicked. 708 00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:11,500 Yes, but you left his body where I would find him. 709 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,660 You must have wanted me here. 710 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,200 I wanted you to break down. 711 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:24,500 I still might. 712 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:30,700 [sighing] Uh-- 713 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,760 uh-- I didn't plan to kill him. 714 00:40:33,860 --> 00:40:34,860 I'm really sorry. 715 00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:43,660 Well, it's like you said, Michael. 716 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,760 Life goes on. 717 00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:56,960 What's important to me now is that I don't let him down. 718 00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:01,030 Not just because my partner's-- 719 00:41:01,130 --> 00:41:04,000 in fact, he betrayed me to the people I work for. 720 00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:11,200 It's the fact that he's dead, and you killed him. 721 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,500 I've got to do something about that. 722 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:27,360 [phone beeping] 723 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:30,100 MICHAEL: Who you calling? 724 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,200 A friend. 725 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,430 [phone ringing] 726 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:39,160 I've been looking everywhere for you. 727 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:41,330 CREEGAN (ON PHONE): I'm at Lawler's house. 728 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:42,730 What are you doing? 729 00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:43,700 [creegan yelling] 730 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,260 [dishes shattering] 731 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:49,600 [creegan gasping] 732 00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:53,500 MICHAEL: Look. 733 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,460 Just stop. 734 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,230 CREEGAN: You didn't stop. 735 00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:58,960 You didn't stop with Lisa D'Silva. 736 00:41:59,060 --> 00:42:02,200 You carried on, but by the time you got to Matchin, 737 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,360 you cut open Suzanne and you hung her upside down 738 00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:05,300 outside his home. 739 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,600 Don't talk about this. 740 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:07,900 I don't care. 741 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,830 I want to know why you chose Anthony Matchin. 742 00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:11,760 Look, my car had broken down. 743 00:42:11,860 --> 00:42:13,000 Matchin came round to help. 744 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:14,300 But why did it have to be him? 745 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,706 MICHAEL: Look, there are some things 746 00:42:15,730 --> 00:42:17,660 in life you cannot explain. 747 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,560 [creegan yelling] 748 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:20,130 [glass shattering] 749 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:21,130 Oh! 750 00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:22,530 [choking] 751 00:42:32,330 --> 00:42:39,260 Life's sacred, and you take life. 752 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000 You destroy it for personal pleasure, 753 00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,630 and then you act out this shitty little ritual 754 00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:46,730 as though the whole thing has some sort of meaning. 755 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,230 What pushed you over the edge? 756 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Was it Frank? 757 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,530 [michael sobbing] 758 00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:09,200 It's really-- it's hard to explain. 759 00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:15,460 [sniffing] There was-- there was something 760 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,100 about Frank that's-- that seemed to bring everything together. 761 00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:25,160 He knew things that I thought about-- things I didn't know, 762 00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:32,630 and he was someone to admire. 763 00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:35,530 Someone to-- to be with. 764 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:41,930 His wife came in for counseling. 765 00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:44,700 She was very upset by the death of Frank's mother. 766 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,360 Frank came with her. 767 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:51,130 Started going to see her at home. 768 00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:53,600 Couldn't believe what I was doing. 769 00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,560 You know, walking up the stairs, I'm thinking to myself, 770 00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:57,530 what are you doing? 771 00:43:57,630 --> 00:43:59,630 [chuckling] 772 00:43:59,730 --> 00:44:03,860 You know, talking to myself and saying, this is stupid. 773 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,600 This is crazy. This is crazy, you know. 774 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:06,960 You've got to stop this. 775 00:44:07,060 --> 00:44:08,980 You've got to stop this before someone gets hurt. 776 00:44:11,260 --> 00:44:17,300 And then there was the window and it was open. 777 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:22,100 So you pushed her through. 778 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,730 There's always the temptation to destroy-- 779 00:44:39,830 --> 00:44:42,660 to do what's wrong. 780 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,960 You have to fight against it to preserve your own sanity, 781 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:50,730 but you've got to choose what is right. 782 00:44:50,830 --> 00:44:53,260 And if I didn't think that was true, you would be dead now. 783 00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:58,360 [car door slamming] 784 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,260 [thunder] 785 00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:15,100 Stand where he stood when you did it. 786 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:29,800 [knife scraping] 787 00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:31,700 [michael gasping] 788 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,660 Is this it? 789 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,300 Is this what you used? 790 00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:40,830 You start here? 791 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:44,930 Work your way up? 792 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:57,200 Go and sit in the car. 793 00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:58,300 Wait for me. 794 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,560 I'm the commanding officer here. 795 00:46:04,660 --> 00:46:06,030 I'm ordering you to go outside. 796 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,300 Somebody has got to do it. 797 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,800 [crying] 798 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,460 My fiance is dead, Creegan. 799 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,700 Please go outside. 800 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,430 You go outside now, you're not a witness. 801 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,300 I can't do this if you're here. 802 00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:40,176 Killing him would be a pleasure. 803 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,600 You're going to enjoy it. 804 00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,730 That's going to stick with you for the rest of your life. 805 00:46:46,830 --> 00:46:48,060 Hand me the knife. 806 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,660 No. 807 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,776 I don't want you to do this. 808 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,800 Give me the knife. 809 00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:58,560 Mark would not want you to do this. 810 00:47:01,660 --> 00:47:04,130 Give it to me. 811 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:05,530 [sobbing] 812 00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:15,660 Everybody trusted you. 813 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:27,936 CREEGAN (ON RECORDING): Interview between David Creegan 814 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,100 and Susan Taylor of the Organized and Serial Crimes 815 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,560 Unit and Michael James Lawler. 816 00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:37,060 The time is 22:17. 817 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,506 MICHAEL (ON RECORDING): I didn't have 818 00:47:38,530 --> 00:47:41,130 anything against the women. 819 00:47:41,230 --> 00:47:46,030 I tried to kill Lisa because of Frank. 820 00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:49,000 I killed Melanie Holland because of John. 821 00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:52,530 I killed Suzanne because of [inaudible] 822 00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:55,030 Yeah. 823 00:47:55,130 --> 00:47:56,130 Yeah. 824 00:47:58,130 --> 00:48:00,250 CREEGAN (ON RECORDING): Tell us about Anthony Matchin. 825 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:08,330 synch and corrected by 7kozlov - www.myfbs.ru - 826 00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:11,860 [theme music]